Comments on: Home http://wiseupwinnipeg.com Exposing Winnipeg's Photo Enforcement Program to be an Unsafe, Preditory, Profit Machine Thu, 17 May 2012 00:16:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Chris Sweryda http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/#comment-3093 Chris Sweryda Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:24:44 +0000 http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/?page_id=237#comment-3093 No they don't and won't as long as the photo radar is profitable. I would fight over that one, but I'm too busy trying to get the speed reductions properly signed. http://www.scribd.com/doc/78215871/Grant-Speed-Reduction-Letter (Letter to Public Works about Grant signing) Grant is currently one of my focuses, but I am very well aware of the Stafford issues. If your interested in pursuing Stafford, I can give you some help. http://www.scribd.com/doc/84995060/Safer-Streets-Solutions-Release-March-2012 If your interested in more of my documents, here are some links. All of the letters addressed to the city have been ignored. http://www.scribd.com/doc/85002064/Basic-Winnipeg-Signing-and-Amber-Light-Issues-2 (Presentation I did to MIT on March 6) http://www.scribd.com/doc/84996099/Winnipeg-Police-Service-Bishop-Grandin (Letter to WPS about Bishop Grandin enforcement) http://www.scribd.com/doc/73787068/Letter-to-City-of-Winnipeg-Playground-Zone-Signs (Letter to Public Works about playgrounds) http://www.scribd.com/doc/72093314/Battle-at-Brookside (Short story about unfair enforcement) No they don’t and won’t as long as the photo radar is profitable. I would fight over that one, but I’m too busy trying to get the speed reductions properly signed.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/78215871/Grant-Speed-Reduction-Letter (Letter to Public Works about Grant signing)
Grant is currently one of my focuses, but I am very well aware of the Stafford issues. If your interested in pursuing Stafford, I can give you some help.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/84995060/Safer-Streets-Solutions-Release-March-2012

If your interested in more of my documents, here are some links. All of the letters addressed to the city have been ignored.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/85002064/Basic-Winnipeg-Signing-and-Amber-Light-Issues-2 (Presentation I did to MIT on March 6)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/84996099/Winnipeg-Police-Service-Bishop-Grandin (Letter to WPS about Bishop Grandin enforcement)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/73787068/Letter-to-City-of-Winnipeg-Playground-Zone-Signs (Letter to Public Works about playgrounds)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/72093314/Battle-at-Brookside (Short story about unfair enforcement)

]]> By: Chris Sweryda http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/#comment-3092 Chris Sweryda Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:18:38 +0000 http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/?page_id=237#comment-3092 Yes, they are right that it is 50 unless otherwise posted, but what they fail to tell you is that that the rule is seriously eroded by the lack of proper signing on higher speed roads. If you went to a city like Saskatoon or Regina, you’ll notice that the speed signing is over very short intervals and if the road is divided, the signs are on the right and median which is something Winnipeg never does for speed signing. In Winnipeg, there are gaps between signs that are often a few km’s long and usually with multiple intersections along the interval. It becomes a guessing game whether you didn’t see a badly placed or missing sign or there is no sign because it’s 50. As an indication of how hard it is to tell, the city of Winnipeg workers have recently installed a maximum 60 sign on a street that is supposed to be an unsigned 50. The road looks so much like it should be a 60 that even the city couldn’t tell the difference and now there is just one sign on one direction at one intersection along that road. They obviously thought they were replacing a missing sign rather than being in an unsigned 50 zone and as if that doesn’t confuse people. I’m not going to get into the plenty of issues with speed reductions since it doesn’t affect Standard. Even with proper signing, other cities post maximum 50 signs on their major roads as a reminder to people who are used to going faster on that kind of road. Winnipeg, however claims that they do not install “selective” maximum 50 signs that aren’t as speed reductions. In reality, they have 120 signs that contradict this claim. If you can believe it, they don’t sign Stafford leaving Pembina, but they have signed Taylor leaving Pembina which is a much less busy route. Wellington Crescent is also signed down by the river where there are curves that you couldn’t do 50 on anyways. If you get a ticket, I suggest fighting it. Try using the while ambiguity of the speed limit and point out that other much less important streets are signed. Point out the gaps in speed signing on other roads which further confuses a driver. You have nothing to lose and you just might get your ticket reduced assuming that it’s not thrown out because the photo radar operator doesn’t show or for any other reason. If more people fought, it would slow down their cash machine greatly. If we can eventually push this to the point it’s not profitable to them anymore, we may actually get proper signing. The information about travelling at less than the speed limit is from Autopac and the Highway Traffic Act. I’m sorry if I said “right lane”, that was supposed to be “left lane”. The commonly known rule of the road is “slower traffic keep right” and if you are going slower in the median lane, you can be ticketed for impeding traffic. The police are notorious for not knowing roadway laws. I recently phoned them to ask if your allowed to turn right in the intersection if a right turn channel is provided which you failed to use. They told me to drive as I see safe; obviously because they themselves to not know the answer. Yes, they are right that it is 50 unless otherwise posted, but what they fail to tell you is that that the rule is seriously eroded by the lack of proper signing on higher speed roads. If you went to a city like Saskatoon or Regina, you’ll notice that the speed signing is over very short intervals and if the road is divided, the signs are on the right and median which is something Winnipeg never does for speed signing. In Winnipeg, there are gaps between signs that are often a few km’s long and usually with multiple intersections along the interval. It becomes a guessing game whether you didn’t see a badly placed or missing sign or there is no sign because it’s 50.
As an indication of how hard it is to tell, the city of Winnipeg workers have recently installed a maximum 60 sign on a street that is supposed to be an unsigned 50. The road looks so much like it should be a 60 that even the city couldn’t tell the difference and now there is just one sign on one direction at one intersection along that road. They obviously thought they were replacing a missing sign rather than being in an unsigned 50 zone and as if that doesn’t confuse people. I’m not going to get into the plenty of issues with speed reductions since it doesn’t affect Standard.
Even with proper signing, other cities post maximum 50 signs on their major roads as a reminder to people who are used to going faster on that kind of road. Winnipeg, however claims that they do not install “selective” maximum 50 signs that aren’t as speed reductions. In reality, they have 120 signs that contradict this claim. If you can believe it, they don’t sign Stafford leaving Pembina, but they have signed Taylor leaving Pembina which is a much less busy route. Wellington Crescent is also signed down by the river where there are curves that you couldn’t do 50 on anyways.
If you get a ticket, I suggest fighting it. Try using the while ambiguity of the speed limit and point out that other much less important streets are signed. Point out the gaps in speed signing on other roads which further confuses a driver. You have nothing to lose and you just might get your ticket reduced assuming that it’s not thrown out because the photo radar operator doesn’t show or for any other reason. If more people fought, it would slow down their cash machine greatly. If we can eventually push this to the point it’s not profitable to them anymore, we may actually get proper signing.
The information about travelling at less than the speed limit is from Autopac and the Highway Traffic Act. I’m sorry if I said “right lane”, that was supposed to be “left lane”. The commonly known rule of the road is “slower traffic keep right” and if you are going slower in the median lane, you can be ticketed for impeding traffic. The police are notorious for not knowing roadway laws. I recently phoned them to ask if your allowed to turn right in the intersection if a right turn channel is provided which you failed to use. They told me to drive as I see safe; obviously because they themselves to not know the answer.

]]> By: Dean http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/#comment-3091 Dean Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:06:33 +0000 http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/?page_id=237#comment-3091 lowridergold: Just got my 66kph at Grant and Nathaniel picture in the mail . I drive down this stretch several times a week and am very diligent about checking my speed. I checked my speed (under 60 kph) saw the van and didn't think I would be getting a picture. I am very interested in the results of your experiment because there is something fishy about this site. lowridergold:

Just got my 66kph at Grant and Nathaniel picture in the mail . I drive down this stretch several times a week and am very diligent about checking my speed. I checked my speed (under 60 kph) saw the van and didn’t think I would be getting a picture. I am very interested in the results of your experiment because there is something fishy about this site.

]]> By: Anonymous http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/#comment-3088 Anonymous Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:32:28 +0000 http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/?page_id=237#comment-3088 Hi I was wondering if the city has any plans to put signage on Stafford. Hi I was wondering if the city has any plans to put signage on Stafford.

]]> By: Andrew http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/#comment-3077 Andrew Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:18:29 +0000 http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/?page_id=237#comment-3077 Hi, I'm not sure if I got a ticket or not but I just talked to the Winnipeg Police about the speed trap on Stafford near Academy. I'm not sure if I got hit or not, but after I saw it I was really curious what the speed limit was but then noticed that on both directions from Pembina to Stafford there is not one speed limit posted, and I just found out that roads with no signage are automatically 50 zones. But like you said its hard to know if you are on a road with no speed limits posted or just experiencing a gap in signage of the previous speed limit? If I do get a ticket in the mail, what should I do about it? Also you said "It’s also illegal to travel in the right lane at a speed less then the limit so your in the wrong no matter what you do." according to the police this isn't true, would you mind telling me where you got this info? Thanks. Hi, I’m not sure if I got a ticket or not but I just talked to the Winnipeg Police about the speed trap on Stafford near Academy. I’m not sure if I got hit or not, but after I saw it I was really curious what the speed limit was but then noticed that on both directions from Pembina to Stafford there is not one speed limit posted, and I just found out that roads with no signage are automatically 50 zones. But like you said its hard to know if you are on a road with no speed limits posted or just experiencing a gap in signage of the previous speed limit? If I do get a ticket in the mail, what should I do about it? Also you said “It’s also illegal to travel in the right lane at a speed less then the limit so your in the wrong no matter what you do.” according to the police this isn’t true, would you mind telling me where you got this info? Thanks.

]]> By: lowridergold http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/#comment-2988 lowridergold Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:16:54 +0000 http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/?page_id=237#comment-2988 I am curious to know what's going on with the tickets on grant @ nathaniel I just received one and it is 66 km as well. So I am going to prove this amera right or wrong by video taping speed while driving down grant will wait for camera car to be present and will find out if this is all for nothing. I will post what happens when the test is done I have been driving for 15 years and have been pulled over once for speeding which I was and owned up and this radar car ticket now and I drive all day long as for my job in the city driving everything from cars to pickups and semis and still only 1 official offence. I do believe there is something to prove here and every route I drive during any given day I go threw cameras or mobile enforcement and the only one I get is where everyone else gets one and at the same speed yet. Will post back soon take I am curious to know what’s going on with the tickets on grant @ nathaniel I just received one and it is 66 km as well. So I am going to prove this amera right or wrong by video taping speed while driving down grant will wait for camera car to be present and will find out if this is all for nothing. I will post what happens when the test is done I have been driving for 15 years and have been pulled over once for speeding which I was and owned up and this radar car ticket now and I drive all day long as for my job in the city driving everything from cars to pickups and semis and still only 1 official offence. I do believe there is something to prove here and every route I drive during any given day I go threw cameras or mobile enforcement and the only one I get is where everyone else gets one and at the same speed yet. Will post back soon take

]]> By: Anonymous http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/#comment-2951 Anonymous Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:30:34 +0000 http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/?page_id=237#comment-2951 Cameras are not the only problem. Last year I was stopped for speeding in the RM of Springfield. I had my cruise control set. A car in front of me slowed down (I was not catching up to it) and pulled to the side. The officer then pulled me over and claimed I was doing 115km/hr. I know for a fact I was not doing this speed. After getting the ticket, I resumed my cruise control and checked my GPS. Both GPS and speedometer show I was doing 95KM/hr (it was a 90 zone, so I guess technically I was speeding). I just had my court date. I lost. Go figure... Red light cameras are NOT the only cash grab... and to be honest, I have never received a ticket from one... only from a cop (springfield police... not sure if I trust these small RM departments... no real control in them) saying I was doing 20km faster than I actually was... Cameras are not the only problem. Last year I was stopped for speeding in the RM of Springfield. I had my cruise control set. A car in front of me slowed down (I was not catching up to it) and pulled to the side. The officer then pulled me over and claimed I was doing 115km/hr. I know for a fact I was not doing this speed. After getting the ticket, I resumed my cruise control and checked my GPS. Both GPS and speedometer show I was doing 95KM/hr (it was a 90 zone, so I guess technically I was speeding).

I just had my court date. I lost. Go figure… Red light cameras are NOT the only cash grab… and to be honest, I have never received a ticket from one… only from a cop (springfield police… not sure if I trust these small RM departments… no real control in them) saying I was doing 20km faster than I actually was…

]]> By: Michael http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/#comment-2910 Michael Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:02:42 +0000 http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/?page_id=237#comment-2910 Ok, first of all lets make something clear, YIELD=STOP NOT MERGE if there is oncoming traffic. Second I would like to know if anyone can identify a speed limit sign on Mountain between Mcphillips and Main, I just got a ticket saying I was doing 63 in a 50 east of the Mountain and Selkirk Red light camera, I tried doing 60 on that road just now, it seems FAST, there is now way I was doing that speed on that road. If's funny how the WPS can issue speeding tickets etc but not be required to prove the camera/radar is accurate. Ok, first of all lets make something clear, YIELD=STOP NOT MERGE if there is oncoming traffic.
Second I would like to know if anyone can identify a speed limit sign on Mountain between Mcphillips and Main, I just got a ticket saying I was doing 63 in a 50 east of the Mountain and Selkirk Red light camera, I tried doing 60 on that road just now, it seems FAST, there is now way I was doing that speed on that road. If’s funny how the WPS can issue speeding tickets etc but not be required to prove the camera/radar is accurate.

]]> By: Ray http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/#comment-2869 Ray Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:09:21 +0000 http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/?page_id=237#comment-2869 My wife just recieved a ticket for a high speed at the Grant location. My intent here isn't to prove that the speed was off (everything is heresay), but I have enough reason to believe it would be worth outfitting our vehicles with GPS data loggers so everything is tracked, so we have a leg to stand on if this happens again. Does anyone know if GPS data (time location and speed) would help if you are fighting the ticket, or has it been done before? Thanks for tips either way... My wife just recieved a ticket for a high speed at the Grant location. My intent here isn’t to prove that the speed was off (everything is heresay), but I have enough reason to believe it would be worth outfitting our vehicles with GPS data loggers so everything is tracked, so we have a leg to stand on if this happens again. Does anyone know if GPS data (time location and speed) would help if you are fighting the ticket, or has it been done before?

Thanks for tips either way…

]]> By: Ryan http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/#comment-2816 Ryan Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:42:22 +0000 http://wiseupwinnipeg.com/?page_id=237#comment-2816 The city needs to rethink their signage and speed limits for streets because it makes no sense as it stands right now. For example Ness which is 60km/h is two lanes at some points, has schools on it, and from just after sturgeon to cavalier has houses facing it. Ellice which is 4 lanes and has no houses on it, is only 50km/h. THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AND IS CONFUSING TO DRIVERS ESPECIALLY NEW PEOPLE TO THE CITY. The city needs to totally revamp how they determine what roads have what speed limits. By this example there is no reason why highway 75 south of St Norbert should be 60km/h. It's 4 lanes, a divided highway, with no houses or schools on it at all. Come on folks can we say cash grab all at once. Lets do it 1...2...3.... CASH GRAB!!!!!!!!!!! Oh yeah when I got my ticket there the cop already had one person pulled over in front of me, and pulled at least two more over behind me. There was one of him so I am not sure how he can write all of the tickets properly, do license checks, and operate the radar properly. Any other time I have seen a cop pull someone over they do it one at a time. Lets all say it again 1...2...3... CASH GRAB!!!!!!!!!! The city needs to rethink their signage and speed limits for streets because it makes no sense as it stands right now. For example Ness which is 60km/h is two lanes at some points, has schools on it, and from just after sturgeon to cavalier has houses facing it. Ellice which is 4 lanes and has no houses on it, is only 50km/h. THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AND IS CONFUSING TO DRIVERS ESPECIALLY NEW PEOPLE TO THE CITY. The city needs to totally revamp how they determine what roads have what speed limits. By this example there is no reason why highway 75 south of St Norbert should be 60km/h. It’s 4 lanes, a divided highway, with no houses or schools on it at all. Come on folks can we say cash grab all at once. Lets do it 1…2…3…. CASH GRAB!!!!!!!!!!! Oh yeah when I got my ticket there the cop already had one person pulled over in front of me, and pulled at least two more over behind me. There was one of him so I am not sure how he can write all of the tickets properly, do license checks, and operate the radar properly. Any other time I have seen a cop pull someone over they do it one at a time. Lets all say it again 1…2…3… CASH GRAB!!!!!!!!!!

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